The Surprising Link Between Liver Health and Mental Wellness

Natalie Tysdal (00:00.93)

Lisa, so much we could talk about today, but I want to zero in on something I know you focus on, and I want to understand why, and that is the liver for women.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (00:12.481)

So the liver has been named for well over 3,000, 4,000 years in other countries as the organ of life or the seat of life. Most people don't look at the liver, but we all have side effects of what the liver has done to us. And the main important thing, the reason why it's the silent killer is because it has no nerve receptors. So it doesn't scream pain, but once it leaves the liver and it goes into your body, now we have pain from

head to toe. So this is why I dug deep into what is the root cause of all of our problems and I came up with the liver.

Natalie Tysdal (00:52.174)

You think the liver, so you're all about health overall. This is your life, this is what you talk about, but how is it that the liver matters so much when we hear in our world, we hear so much about other things. We hear about cortisol, we hear about our metabolisms, but I know metabolism has a lot to do with liver too. Explain, go a little deeper, why is the liver the first thing we need to think about?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (01:17.217)

So when we put items on our skin.

We all wear makeup, you maybe it was pure, maybe it wasn't pure. Maybe you're just coming into the pure air of your life. You're tired of wrinkles, you know, you're, do I do Botox? Do I not do Botox? So the skin is your largest organ and then the liver. So the liver is the biggest internal organ, but your skin is the largest external. Every single thing in this environment, everything, the air you breathe, you know, the lotions you put on your skin, whatever you put in your mouth has to go through your power house, which is your liver.

So this is the detoxing system of your entire body. When the liver has higher visceral fat or body composition fat, which are two different fats, and the adipose fat, now we have what we would call like Denver traffic, right? So you go to the outskirts, you're in the rural area, you're just flowing along, all of a sudden the cars are backed up, you can't get to your turn, you can't get to the off branch, you know, why? And it's your liver can no longer, it has two portals, one goes to the lower body, one goes to the upper body, and other

your digestive trap and your heart. When you have symptoms on the right side of your body, they are a hundred percent related to your liver. If you have symptoms on your left side of your body, like your heart, it's still connected the portal. The only portal goes right back to the liver. This is why it is called, you know, the liver, right? Or die, right? So at the end of the day, the liver is your powerhouse. It is the metabolism of everything that goes

Natalie Tysdal (02:44.066)

you

Coachh Lisa Pickart (02:50.211)

on in your body, affects metabolic syndrome, affects your lymphatic system, it affects your fascia, it makes your serotonin, it makes your dopamine, you know, when all these things get off balance, your thyroid, and thyroid's a big one because that's one of the biggest things that women suffer from is hypothyroidism, or like myself, I was a hyperthyroidism, I don't have it anymore, completely cured. However, when the liver gets sluggish, we have

a little congestion and then it moves into the stage of fibrosis which goes to the fourth stage of cancer of cirrhosis and then we go to cancer.

Natalie Tysdal (03:31.086)

Okay, so let's talk about improving our liver health. What do we do? Are all the other things we hear about in general health care when we're just making ourselves up and we're exercising and we're eating well, is that helping the liver or are there very specific things we need to do?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (03:48.321)

So there are some specific things that we should do, but I will tell you, have, so I come from a different perspective. I don't know if you are aware or not, but I'm a full carnivore. I only eat beef, water, and salt. I do not, I was a vegan, so. I knew you would love that.

Natalie Tysdal (03:59.852)

Whoa, okay, back up. No, I didn't know that. I want to understand that and tell me what a typical day looks like and why you do that. I don't hear that very often here on this podcast.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (04:13.151)

So I was a vegan for about 16, so was like transferring, going over to vegan, leaving just chicken and turkey, and body builder, obesity, 14 autoimmune diseases, super sick, and I realized as a vegan, I was actually losing muscle mass, I was getting sicker, and I was getting fatter, and I had massive amounts of some diseases that left damage on top of it. So here I am now turning 66, and if I could undo it, that'd be great, but I can't.

So when we talk about what happens when you go carnivore, and my day, my day, I get up, I train, I'm very regimented, and a lot of people are like, why? Why do you stay regimented? The bottom line is if you don't have good habits, you'll have bad habits. So we have to focus on that choice every minute of every day. So when I get up in the morning, I train, I teach, I do lives, I also do like whiteboard training, so I try to get out as much content to help other women to understand why they're in pain, why they're

which is the liver. And what the liver has to do from these vegetables, carbohydrates, sugars, coffee, these type of things that have to go to the powerhouse and be filtered out. So my day consists of soleil water. My first thing that goes on my mouth in the morning is hot water with lemon in it. People go, well, wait a minute.

Natalie Tysdal (05:31.662)

That's my favorite. I talk a lot about gut health. That's my favorite. First thing.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (05:35.189)

Yes, and they go, how are you doing lemon as a carnivore? Well, you know what? There are exceptions to every single situation. The liver will heal from the animal fat, but it has to have the bitter in order to break down that visceral fat. You should definitely stay on it for the rest of your life. If I gave free advice to anybody, please do your hot water and lemon every single morning before anything goes in your mouth. So this, as you know, your gut is sick because your liver's sick. So once your liver gets healthy,

your gut will automatically heal itself and then that starts to heal mental health and that's another conversation. So then I do intermittent fasting. So I shut my day every day at six o'clock at night. That starts my new day. And then at noon, the next day I open my window up. I've already trained. I've had six, seven hours of a very productive day. I'm acute, my brain, no fog, feel fantastic. Then I go into my eating window. I typically go 23 hours every 24 hours of no eating.

and then I eat one meal a day. And that meal might consist of like six to 12 eggs, 16 ounces of meat, sometimes a little slice of avocado with it because I do believe in avocado. I think it has amazing healing benefits for our body as well.

Natalie Tysdal (06:49.218)

that a two outside of outside of meat like avocado you've put in exception.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (06:53.045)

Yeah, I don't do it often. So, you I might go eight months with no avocado and then my body might say, hey, you know what, let's get a little extra fat in, especially because I typically run about 18 % between 15 and 18 % body fat. So if I'm getting a little bit low, I'm not able to get in enough animal fat. I will throw that fat in on top of it. And it just gives you that little extra boost. Number one problem people have about going carnivores. What about my bowels? I don't have a gallbladder. I don't either. And when your body adapts,

Natalie Tysdal (07:21.464)

Hmm.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (07:23.099)

to the proper amount of bile and the way the liver is getting rid of that congestion, your body starts to heal. It's truly amazing.

Natalie Tysdal (07:30.028)

So tell me about your workouts without having eaten at six o'clock the day before. Do find you have enough energy? Does your body get used to that?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (07:38.476)

Yeah.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (07:42.411)

Beyond. And fasted workouts actually help autophagy, which is reducing aging, cleaning out those dead cells inside your liver. So not as an internally so good for you, but externally you walk your talk and you just feel fabulous. So there's really, I did bodybuilding and did the high carbs, low fat. I got sicker and sicker and sicker. I've won eight shows in Southern California. If I could go back and redo it, I would. You put your body in such a horrible metabolic state, it just makes you sicker.

If I was to ever go back on stage, I would do it as a carnivore now.

Natalie Tysdal (08:16.6)

So what does meat look like for you? What are those meals?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (08:20.457)

So I don't do any chicken and I don't do any turkey. only do my primary. It's not as good a form of meat. It is a little higher in protein, but because it's so.

Natalie Tysdal (08:25.23)

Do you have something against that? You don't like it or is it not as good for you?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (08:34.207)

It has so many hormones that are destroying a woman's body and this becomes our hormone issue with the estrogen imbalances whether you're dominant or not your hip issues You know everything that's going on inside of your body typically is from these hormones that have entered into your body and your liver can't take care of them because it's congested and then that leads to a bigger problem I could probably add it back in I struggle a little bit I know this is gonna be like a detour here, but Natalie like literally if you think about what what a carnivore is is you eat and

animals that have the second and third stomach and chickens don't have that. So why would we eat them to start with? Are they truly a carnivore? I'm supposed if I was hunting and I was eating a grouse and that's the only food I had in the 1800s, yeah, I would have eaten it. You you do what you got to do. A rabbit, whatever it is, but like deer, elk, venison, bison, cow, these are the choices for the nutrients. The max amount of nutrients you're going to get are going to come from those meats.

Natalie Tysdal (09:32.974)

So primarily beef or what is your primary source of protein?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (09:35.937)

Primarily beef, I don't eat any pork anymore. I did in the beginning, but I have histamine issues and pork seems to trigger them just a little bit more. I could get away with maybe four pieces of bacon here and there, but I definitely can't live on it.

Natalie Tysdal (09:50.392)

So steak, ground beef, what do those meals look like for you?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (09:52.502)

I do.

Primarily rib eyes. That's like a good fatty meat. You have to get the fat in over the protein. The fat is so much more important than the protein. It's in proteins aboard and we want good hair. We want good skin, good nails, good vision. That's all cell is all protein. But how much do you need? So let's just say, for example, your liver isn't metabolizing properly and the genesis of it, you're going to go into putting more insulin into your body from the protein because it's going to convert over and store in your cells as a energy

fuel source for the future, which you're never using. So now it just explodes into obesogens, which you end up fat.

Natalie Tysdal (10:31.03)

you end up and how does your liver work without all the other nutrients that are in vegetables and fruits and fiber and all of that.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (10:41.335)

We don't need any of it. So the nutrients that you need, everything from D, A, K, E, the most primaries, they're in your meat. Your C is in your meat. Everything you need is in your meat and fiber is a lie. We don't need any fiber. As a matter of fact, more people have colon disease, IBS, celiac, all these things are coming from the ultra-processed process and whole foods because of the osculates that get stuck inside your body. It creates cancer and ultimately the liver can't filter

them out anymore because it's sick so we get the liver healthy and then we don't have colon issues, we don't have gut issues, literally the testimonies like I was telling you about the Healing Humanity documentary coming out there are thousands of testimonies there to show people how they have overcome I mean everything even autism they've done massive amounts of study 2900 autistic and psychological issue people that have psychosis were on Medicaid

within 18 months were off all medications and functioning normal. And autism is, everybody wants to blame everything else, but is it the shots or is it the food?

Natalie Tysdal (11:52.674)

Wow. Okay, so I really thought we were just gonna start down the line of liver health, right? This carnivore thing, it's own topic. I think another thing that's hard for people is we hear over and over moderation, everything in moderation. And my general rule is 80-20. If I'm good 80 % of the time, my body can take 20 % of the treat here and there so I don't go crazy. I mean, you're pretty regimented, we know that. Not everybody has that discipline.

How do you advise people who are like, you know, I have friends, I go to parties, I go out to eat. Do you just order ribeye everywhere you go and that's the only thing you eat? I how do you find that balance?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (12:33.549)

So in my course, which is A to Z, and it is functioning on the liver. So I'm going to slow down here just for a minute because mental health is at the root. So the root cause of mental health is your liver and people that have addictive personalities typically can't moderate. So for me, moderation is out because if I'm going to be bad, I'm going to be a hundred percent bad. I'm not even going to be 80 % bad, which is how I got to be 260 pounds. I just threw in the towel and I said, look, if I'm going

I'm going be fat, going be sassy, and I'm going to be 60, and that's just the way life is going to end. That is not okay. That is just an excuse. So when we start coming back into the world of carnivore and our liver has all those nutrients, that sickness in the brain and that addictive personality subsides. So even though I'm regimented, I'm not addicted. And I know that those two can kind of cross lines, but one of the things that I feel like is super important is I have a client that's a male. I have a males program and a women's

program that is in Los Angeles. And he is a psychiatrist and he is on carnivore and he had gained a lot of work weight, know, sits behind a desk all day. And literally as a doctor, I would have looked at him and said, why am I coming to you? Right? Like, what are you hiding in all that food that's now in your gut and your obesity? And so he said, how long coach do I need to stay carnivore? So the rest of your life, it's a lifestyle. He's like, well, wait a minute, can't I have like, you know, a drink here and there with my, my coworkers and go out and

have a little holiday, whatever. I said, yeah, you could do that. He goes, I can? I said, yeah, but your next client that's addicted to heroin, please make sure you tell them they could do heroin on Saturdays.

Natalie Tysdal (14:14.766)

Yeah, but having some ice cream with your kids every once in a while, like are you saying, and at what point? Like I look at life of modeling these things to my kids and I'm probably not gonna put my child on a carnivore diet from the beginning.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (14:34.827)

I would recommend all children on carnivore from nursing. if you're going to breastfeed, go straight to bone broth from bone broth to ground up meat, eating the bones, living on that. And eventually they will just eat meat. That's like going to be the number one source. Number one, it's going to help them grow to their potential. They're going to have all the nutrients they need. They're going to be a little bit of step ahead in all children on the, like on your IQ tests, children that have been raised carnivore are actually better thinkers. There are more critical thinkers. They have better habits.

They are successful. They're clear-brained. They're passing their SATs. They're just truly amazing. One step up. Not that there's anything wrong with being, you know, in the middle line. I was a BC student as well. But I probably could have been better had I not been eating Froot Loops and Pop Tarts and, you know, the occasional Shakey's Pizza and ice cream. Right. So why would we want to not change it for the next generation? That's what I would challenge somebody to look at.

Natalie Tysdal (15:23.672)

We know that for sure. Yeah.

Natalie Tysdal (15:30.381)

again.

It's just such a, I mean, it's such a peer pressure thing. It's a cultural thing. It's norms in our society of going to birthday parties and not everybody has that discipline. I know you teach it, but that's hard.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (15:48.63)

I do.

So not only do I teach it, I blend it. So I take vegans. I have people who come to me that are like, I'm sick. I have all my blood work. This is what's happening. What can I do? And I allow them to transform or to transition from being a vegan to being a, like, I don't like the word strict carnivore. I'm not strict at all. I have food freedom now. I eat one time a day. I eat to live. I don't live to eat. I don't need to socialize with drinks. I don't need to socialize with food. As a matter of fact, I teach an entire

your program on how to handle Christmas, Thanksgiving, know, people going to functions, especially in the business world, you're at a corporate dinner, like what do you do from there? And really the best comeback people will say like, you're not eating tonight because if there's nothing on the menu, why would I subject myself to being sick and in pain again? I want to protect me first. So if you look at the Me Too movement, why don't we take care of ourselves? Why are we constantly throwing that out the window as if we care for our children more than us? Because if you really love your children,

you're going to take care of yourself so you're here when you're 90 and 100 years old, right? And that goes for everything. Every single part of our environment, our mind, you know, I do mind, body, spirit is what it comes down to. So what are you putting on your body? What are you putting in your mind? What do you listen to? We teach our children to do a better job on social media, but are we doing a better job? You know, all of this ties into critical thinking and being able to really propel yourself forward. So one of the tips I would leave with your listeners today is if you're

Natalie Tysdal (16:53.048)

Yeah.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (17:19.695)

Contemplating going carnivore number one get a coach number two work on the mindset So as an example, I come to your house and super excited to meet everybody that's in your family, know Hey, this is coach Lisa. She's carnivore this and that and there's desserts cake You know pasta salads everything all over the counters. Am I tempted to do that? I already know what it tastes like I've already eaten it. I've already gotten sick from it. So I'm not gonna return back to my vomit, right? I don't want

to go back to that. So I already have an understanding that that's gonna be there, but it's not meant for me. I just don't want anything to do with it. So I tell people when you arrive somewhere, and I really like I just treasure these words, tell people that you're there to socialize with them. So how's your day going? What's been going on in your life? Because why does every gathering at every church, every environment have to relate around sugar?

Natalie Tysdal (18:15.16)

Thank

Coachh Lisa Pickart (18:15.649)

When we're there to be healthy, to be spiritually led, to increase our mindset, why are we serving things that, and when I say sugar, I'm talking vegetables, carbohydrates, fruit, these are all sugars. They're hidden sugars. When they go into your body as a carbohydrate, unless your liver is absolutely functioning at the top peak, it converts higher insulin, which goes to type two diabetes.

Natalie Tysdal (18:17.902)

Yeah.

Natalie Tysdal (18:37.966)

So all vegetables, does your liver convert these? Like if we're talking broccoli, like I have snap peas and broccoli and some things we're taking on a road trip today. I'm like, I'm gonna eat healthy in the car. So I pack my vegetables. Even if

Coachh Lisa Pickart (18:50.517)

All of it. And get this Natalie, do you know that broccoli is not a God made vegetable, it is man created?

Natalie Tysdal (18:59.404)

No, I didn't know that.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (19:00.544)

I know.

Nobody does. But we have ever since 1968 when they started the it's called the agricultural revolution. This is where we brought water. We did mass production. We cross-bred. We created things. Man did all that. And then we made it so that fruits and vegetables would be they're available, the availability to you 12 months out of the year. So now let's just say I had a woman that came to me. I don't know what exactly would grow in your area naturally, but I can tell you this. I know what doesn't grow there from late October till

probably May of the next year because the ground is frozen. You don't have access to berries or fruits or tomatoes or any of that type of stuff. So why are we eating it when it's off season? That's what you'd Yeah, you're never giving the liver a rest.

Natalie Tysdal (19:42.412)

Well, and I'm a big believer in that for sure.

Yeah.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (19:47.253)

All you're doing is making it work, work, work. And if you were to keep some, you would want to pick the lowest level of the osculate of the vegetables and the fruit, but it's all, if your liver's not working properly, it's all going to store in your body in toxic cells, which becomes your lymphatic system and your, we'll call it cellulite, even though I don't really believe in cellulite, but you have these cells that are full of toxins and then it goes from one cell to two cells to four cells to eight cells and it just multiplies.

and it sits waiting to be used. But if you're not using it, you've got cellulite.

Natalie Tysdal (20:23.246)

So can your liver function properly and in a healthy way on a diet that has fruits and vegetables and meat?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (20:32.693)

I would say yes.

depending on the person, it's not one shoe fits all, but if your blood work after a year, two years, came in right where it should be, which is the sweet spot, everybody's a little different, could you get away with a handful of berries? you know, like, well, first of all, your blackberries would only be available for two weeks out of the whole summer or the whole year, right? So if you wanted to have a gallon in that period, I'd be totally fine with it. But you would not want to continue on that in this addictive personality where more is better.

And you definitely don't want to be doing like fake food. So you don't want to be freezing them. You don't want to be using them, you know, later. Let's go back to the 1800s and let's say that, you know, the biggest trial and error that women went through was they saw a tree with berries on it and somebody would taste it and they died. And that's how they learned that that berry was not safe to eat.

Natalie Tysdal (21:06.03)

What about sub?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (21:28.649)

a sacrifice was made. So if we have all this knowledge today and we bring forth what is okay, we've also gone into what's not okay by the obsessiveness of it, which is being a vegan, you know, or 80 % fruits and vegetables and 20 % meat. If you could flip that and do 80 % meat and then a little on the outside, that's okay. I wouldn't do it, but some people can do it and I would support them and help them to do it properly.

Natalie Tysdal (21:58.67)

What about supplementation with protein? If you have a smoothie or whey protein, powders, or collagen, obviously those are really popular things right now. Is that okay for the liver? Are we getting the right kind of protein when we're doing any type of supplement?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (22:16.972)

So I would say no, that would be the first thing, but I do have clients that have lived that life and they have to wean off it. So what gives you all of that is bone broth or meat stock. So I drink about three to four cups.

Natalie Tysdal (22:28.344)

Yeah. Well, they're bone broth proteins, obviously.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (22:31.565)

Yes. And so I do three to four cups, sometimes six cups of broth a day. And that gives me all my collagen. It gives me all my protein. I mean, I'm still getting protein in my meat as well, but most importantly, it's giving me the supplementation without having to spend $600 to a thousand dollars a month in supplements that really your body doesn't need it every single day anyways. And one of the biggest things out there right now is organ supplements. Do we need liver, heart, know, kidney spleen from the animal? So nose to tail is really,

important for the body. personally don't eat liver. I am just starting to take like liver, it's like not a capsule, but it's about the size of what would go in a capsule, like a little bit less than an ounce in my ground meat. I just mix it in there and make a smash burger with it. I really haven't noticed a huge difference, but I think natural form is always going to be better than a pill. But if you absolutely cannot do it, take the liver organ supplement pill. It will make a difference in your life. And then you don't need

to eat all the vegetables and the fruits that are actually destroying your liver.

Natalie Tysdal (23:36.098)

Wow. Okay, so what other tips for the liver? What are things that we can be doing to be sure? Or how would you know? Is there a test? How would you know your liver's not functioning properly?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (23:49.761)

So the first is going to be your symptoms. So if you have thyroid issues, you have lymphatic fluid in your body, you know, have water retention in your ankles when you're flying, traveling, these type of things, sore joints, brain fog, insomnia, longer periods, heavier periods, trying to think of some menopause symptoms. Brain fog really is a big one. So, and then of course, if your blood work comes back, if you've had a full lipid panel, which is your liver panel, you don't care about your cholesterol. Let the cholesterol go up.

Helps your brain your brain needs so much fat and unfortunately, I don't want to get too political But the government has droned us down or dumbed us down They've taken the cholesterol out of our diet so that we are more submissive and more able to obey But your brain functions on cholesterol, so you want that so the higher the cholesterol good But the one thing you are having high triglycerides, which is from ultra processed foods alcohol these type of things if you are sitting over 70 70 in your triglycerides, so you have a hundred fifty

or 200 or 300 score, your liver is already suffering probably like in a fibrosis state. It could be worse. But what we want to do is address that immediately. And that comes in that liver detoxing. I don't believe in like flushing the liver to where you're in bed for three days and you're sicker than a dog and you could possibly even go to a gallbladder attack. If you have one, you're really screwing with the bile into your gut. But what you want to do is balance those microbes. And so we do like a three day liver

Fast which is having to do with putting two whole lemons in your blender. It's like a lexor You drink it you put a little bit of castor oil in there or MCT oil that's going to help lubricate things and you're going to start Softening that liver to get rid of that visceral fat which is actually killing you because that's what cirrhosis is It's a scar tissue there the the biggest blessing that we have once we start this process even if you have as Again, this is a whole nother sub episode my husband

has liver cirrhosis. He was given 30 days to live and it's been four years and what's today's date? The 20 sec or 25th. So four years and 24 days he's alive. People say he's on borrowed time and the doctor said he is amazing and he supports carnivore 100 % which is what healed him. So. So it started July 1st of 2021.

Natalie Tysdal (26:11.18)

Wow. How long have you been carnivore and your husband?

Natalie Tysdal (26:18.38)

Wow.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (26:19.253)

And I don't, a lot of people count their days and their months and this and that. I've never cheated. I've never stepped off, which I do want to go back to the cheating ice cream. know, carnival world has exploded so big. there's a gal, her name is Courtney Luna, who's also a client and we work a lot together. So she's a cook and she has made so many recipes. If you want to get a great book and kind of start moving towards, going carnivore, but you're going to, you don't want to give up pancakes. You don't want to give up, you know, birthday cakes.

to give up bread. There are carnivore recipes that are just literally heavy whipping cream and the egg yolks or the full egg where you can get in there and make these lookalikes which are full carnivore. I actually am staying at a house that has an 18 year old amazing carnivore here and she also spends so many hours in the kitchen not only making skin products with tallows but she also duplicates what a younger girl may want.

you know, to feel socially accepted or just to be able to have, like muffins and all of these things, but they're fully based off a carnivore. Yeah.

Natalie Tysdal (27:21.987)

Yeah.

sure. That's, I'd be fascinated with that. What about eating out? Are you good eating out? If you just order a steak or do you look specifically for it? Because I buy my ground beef, of course all grass-fed organic. But when you're eating out, we don't know that.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (27:42.549)

So I do typically call ahead and I do ask, know, are you using soy when you cook it? you cook it. If I come in, can I have it cooked in butter? What's your butter? Is it grass fed? Is it margarine? Like I actually do, cause this traveling trip we're doing, we are doing carnivore on the road to show people what ordering looks like, what's in our freezer inside of the RV and like literally how do you do it? You know, and then do you get weird reactions from the waitress when you're sitting there saying, I just want a grass fed burger. Do you have it? Yes, we do. Okay, great.

want four fried eggs on top of that. Can you fry them in butter versus oil or a spray? We just have to speak up. If you can be vegan and speak up, why can't you be carnivore and speak up?

Natalie Tysdal (28:22.744)

Right. Yeah. Yeah. So you can pretty much eat out anywhere. Well, you have to pick the places knowing the kind of meat you're getting. Can you eat?

Coachh Lisa Pickart (28:28.877)

I do my best to look ahead. Like I have all these children, they're like, are you coming to visit this and that? So I know where I'm going. I mean, it's no different than if I had a child that was suffering from peanut allergies, the last thing I'm gonna do is take them into somewhere that has a hidden peanut oil or a hidden, know, maybe it's coming from a peanut factory, right? And you don't even know about the contamination. It's the same, because I have histamine issues. Well, I did when I ate normal standard American diet, eggs, eggs can literally kill a person, the white.

Natalie Tysdal (28:39.918)

Yeah.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (28:58.971)

but the yolk typically has zero effect on anyone. So you can eat those yolks and be able to get all the fat you need for the day because it's high fat. You just got to keep eating the fat, the animal fats, and that is what heals that liver, which we're talking about like visceral fat. This is another blood test or a body scan. If you have an in-body scale or go to your local gym, get an evoke machine done, find out what your visceral fat. have women that are working with doctors,

and they're like, well, my visceral fat's at 12. They told me that's really good. No, you need to be under five because if you're not under five, your liver is suffering. And when your liver suffers, your microbes suffer, your mitochondria suffers, your energy, your ATP suffers, malnutrition, hair loss, and it's just ugly.

Natalie Tysdal (29:34.83)

well.

Natalie Tysdal (29:48.408)

Wow, so much information. Lisa, thank you. appreciate it. can people get? We need to do another episode. I've got a lot of other topics that I'd like to go through with you. But people who want to follow you, get more information. I'll be sure and put it in the show notes. But if you want to mention it here, that'd be great.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (29:52.075)

You're welcome.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (30:04.267)

Sure, it's Conner for Coach Lisa on YouTube. I don't do a lot of live type stuff, but I do try to get out as much information. I do whiteboard trainings that are about 45 minutes long. It's like a podcast, but you get a visual along with it. And then Facebook is Lisa Pickard, P-I-C-K-A-R-T. And then also on Instagram, the same thing, Lisa Pickard. I'm not really big social media. I love belly to belly. I was raised that way. Yeah, it is what it is, right? But I think most importantly, one thing I'm gonna leave you guys

Natalie Tysdal (30:27.246)

You're just too busy. You have time for that.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (30:34.261)

with don't be afraid. Fear will destroy you. But faith in knowing that you can't, your body was designed to heal itself. If you give it the right nutrients and the right formula, you will get there. And we can overcome all autoimmune diseases and we can overcome basic kidney, I have clients that have overcome kidney disease, colon cancer. I have a guy right now who had his whole colon removed and he's on a bag and they told him, you know, you're on your way out dude. You got less than six months. He's already coming.

back around and he was 6388 pounds.

Natalie Tysdal (31:08.314)

It's just fascinating in which it's it's, I know it's becoming more, more mainstream, but it's so far from what our culture does daily that it, believes that it's like, wow, how could I do that until you really do it? I'm gonna have to try it.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (31:09.653)

Yeah, it really is.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (31:18.689)

beliefs.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (31:24.001)

Yeah, and I do focus, we we talked a little bit about mental health here, but I do focus on another program inside the program. So when you purchase the course, it comes with like 35 programs inside of it. And one of them is untying the lies that we believed. Why did we believe what our parents told us? Why do we believe the coach at school? Why did we believe the schooling education program? We have to be, as we started this whole entire talk with, like you as a journalist, you have to be curious. You need to be questioning what's going on your

Natalie Tysdal (31:37.614)

Hmm.

Natalie Tysdal (31:41.4)

Yeah.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (31:53.935)

in your body, mind alone. Food noise, people noise is huge and this goes for male and female, being driven politically, what's the narrative behind it and who's profiting on the dollar? Who's keeping you sick? Yes.

Natalie Tysdal (32:11.17)

Yep, you're absolutely right. Always go to the source, always try to find the information and always stay curious. I live by that. Lisa, thank you so much. thank you. It's a pleasure to talk to you.

Coachh Lisa Pickart (32:19.149)

Yeah, me too. No, thank you. This has been awesome. Thank you for having me. I look forward to our next discussion. Take care. God bless. Thank you. You too. Bye bye.

Natalie Tysdal (32:27.426)

All right, we'll set it up soon. Take care. Happy travels and be safe.